By aguyindayton

June 16, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

amen to that; and amen to Sen. Obama for his Fathers Day speech .. any fool can have a baby or father a baby; but it takes a man to raise a child and look after that child in a responsible manner. The resembalance between school rules and the real world are far fetched. In the real world; there are no IEPs, no teacher calling parents, no truent officers nor internal/external suspension systems. In the real world there are a lot of people that really want to work and will get the job you might be interested in. In the real world; “players” get cut from the team.

By Concerned Mom of 3

June 13, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this

I think Dayton Public Schools needs to establish and implement a zero tolerance policy for students who repeatedly cause major disruptions in the learning environment. (Yes, I know, it is already in the code of conduct… but these kids are rarely dealt with in a manner that actually resolves the problems. The bad kids are dealt with the same way bad teachers are dealt with… The district shuffles them around every so often, and they end up causing problems wherever they are for the time being. Then they just shuffle them around again. The process repeats itself over and over.) The teachers end up wasting a lot of class time when the same problems come up again and again. Maybe the students who can’t seem to respect the learning environment should have to attend a residential school similar to boot camp. You know, break them down to nothing physically and emotionally, teach them to show respect for themselves and others, then bulid them back up. Maybe, just maybe, straightening the kids out before they end up in prison will save the taxpayers a lot of hassle and money in the long run. I have heard lots of stories about people whose lives have turned around because they learned to have respect for themselves, respect for authority, and respect for life itself. It may seem like an extreme proposition, but I can tell you, some of the kids in the Dayton district would be changed forever. (For the better.) Zero tolerance. I don’t know if Aden attends school in Dayton, but the people who read this blog should sit up and take notice… There are some really disruptive things happening in the classrooms. If you ask the students who care about getting a good education, they will tell you all about it.

By aguyindayton

June 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

schools in a gang area and violent schools ..what is the brd of education doing to combat that. There are children in many poor counteries that strive to learn and really value their education. At some point our society has to learn that our future is dependent upon our education system; NOT additional entitlement programs. Venture down to the Dayton Job Center and see what the lack of an education means, and see the people trying to get ahead. We are our own worse enemies.. we seem to give in to any pressure the blocks our education system. What are we afriad of?? I would guess that 90+% of our strudents want an education, but the 10% that don’t ruin it for many others. WLW advocates jail classrooms, block walls and books built in the school for Internal Suspension .. I think Mike McConnell(WLW) has the right idea. We don’t allow “rebels” to ruin other patrs of our society so why do we tollerate it in schools???

By Aden

June 9, 2008 1:36 AM | Link to this

The OGT is not fair for somekids like the one who attends a bad district school like some gang neibrhood and violent schools that the kid can’t learn and hard work in order to pass the OGT but i will sugest the ohio officialls of edecation to change the test requirment some kind of better requirmenet good luck student of ohoio!!!!!!!!

By Mary

June 8, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

MC, equally important to all of society is that talent and intellectual abilities are not being nurtured for the good of society. If you think an inadequate system just punishes the drop outs, think again.

By MC

June 8, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Mary, yes our education system does not meet the need of all students. None do. At least in this country everybody has the opportunity for an education. If certain students do not wish to take advantage of the opportunity so be it. They could be out in the rice paddy’s or on the street doing hard labor. While our educational system will never meet the needs of all students it is at least it is available for those that want it which is more than is offered in many other countries. Oh, and with respect to tearing scabs off of healing wounds…

By Mary

June 7, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

Laura, sorry, but your comments on this issue are like tearing the scab off a wound trying to heal. For many students, the education curriculum and environment are a wasteland and counterproductive to their leanring. For these students, including many gifted students, education in its current state should not be compulsory at any age. Steven Spielberg and Charles Bronson are supposedly among the high school drop outs who needed out of the system.

By aguyindayton

June 7, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

You have to be kidding … there are too many children in school that really have no intention of doing anything but “entertaining” the rest of the class. Let them find an alternate education path; perhaps a GED class with adultes that know the meaning of an education. We are far toooo easy on these studewnts.. there will be “some children left behind”(SCLB) because they “don’t want to get on the bus. Education is an opportunity, not a right.

By Laura

June 5, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

There is a simply solution for most of the students who are dropping out. Raise the minimum age to 18 and don’t allow parents to sign for them to drop out! How can we express concern that so many teenagers are just quitting school because they don’t like it but we let them!